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Boosters are completely optional. You do not need them to "stay competitive"

I stay competitive without a hitch, and I have only bought two boosters since I started the game in March.

Just because some people's perception of what they need to stay competitive leads them to buy boosters, doesn't mean one must buy boosters to stay competitive.

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Clearly, the majority of the community are not up in arms over the price of boosters, so why do the CPM feel obligated to white knight for the whiners? This smells of personal agenda on the part of the CPM.

The majority of the player base, in my opinion, seems more concerned with the lack of basic content. We all want things that should have been here in May such as All racial dropsuits and vehicles. We also want additional content that could have been added by now, but hasn't such as different types of equipment, cloaking modules, for example, or different game modes, more maps, team deployment in FW. The list goes on and on. The price of boosters is not a concern for the majority of the player base, and shouldn't be for the CPM either.

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Furthermore, if you honestly believed most players' lifetime SP was such a huge factor, you should be advocating more SP gains in general, or the removal of the soft cap. Not everyone uses boosters, but everyone surely wants to stay competitive. If having more SP equates to staying competitive, what about the free players? Are they not a part of the community as well? Do they not deserve a voice?

Stop using your position in the CPM as a platform to achieve your personal agendas.


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Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1929	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:47:00 - [1] - Quote I get that they cost more than twice as much as a normal booster, and that's honestly fine. But you know what isn't fine? The cost of passive booster and active boosters to begin with. (I won't even get started on the bonuses they give) The idea that someone's paying roughly 30$ a month for a dream that hasn't been realized. Twice the 'industry standard' for a subscription fee, for a game that's horribly incomplete and riddled with problems. It's straight up offensive. Then add in omega boosters that hike that up to $50+ a month? Talk about a kick in the balls. But you know what's even more sad than the perception within CCP that this is fine to do? The fact that people are still going to buy the **** out of it, because they want to 'stay competitive' and because it gives a definite advantage to the people who have it. It's the very nature of a pvp gamer's mentality. Gravitate towards the best items, take any advantage you can get... even if you have to pay for it. I don't care how CCP justifies this. Boosters have always been Pay to Win. Even if their own definition of pay2win doesn't see it that way... Their customers do.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1932	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:29:00 - [2] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: It astounds me in this day and age with the living example of the success of Apple & Android App + Music stores and Steam sales that marketing departments still haven't learned the power of microtransactions. Its like they are trapped in the 70s ... running a department store, not a 21st century electronic business. Exactly. CCP is not getting the 'micro' part of microtransactions. :(
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1945	Posted - 2013.10.01 17:02:00 - [3] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: [ The problem here is, it is not a subscription fee. CCP views them as a 'subscription item' which is a common thing in f2p games, is to introduce an option to buy X at 15$/month and recieve bacon in return. Quote: Boosters are completely optional. You do not need them to "stay competitive" I stay competitive without a hitch, and I have only bought two boosters since I started the game in March. Just because some people's perception of what they need to stay competitive leads them to buy boosters, doesn't mean one must buy boosters to stay competitive. Indeed. Hence the quotes in my OP. For the most part, a good player can excel with any amount of SP over a less skilled player with more SP. However, perception is one of the most powerful tools marketing has, and CCP is doing nothing short of taking advantage of pvp mentality and gouging people. Quote: Clearly, the majority of the community are not up in arms over the price of boosters, so why do the CPM feel obligated to white knight for the whiners? This smells of personal agenda on the part of the CPM. The majority of the player base, in my opinion, seems more concerned with the lack of basic content. We all want things that should have been here in May such as All racial dropsuits and vehicles. We also want additional content that could have been added by now, but hasn't such as different types of equipment, cloaking modules, for example, or different game modes, more maps, team deployment in FW. The list goes on and on. The price of boosters is not a concern for the majority of the player base, and shouldn't be for the CPM either. EDIT: Furthermore, if you honestly believed most players' lifetime SP was such a huge factor, you should be advocating more SP gains in general, or the removal of the soft cap. Not everyone uses boosters, but everyone surely wants to stay competitive. If having more SP equates to staying competitive, what about the free players? Are they not a part of the community as well? Do they not deserve a voice? Stop using your position in the CPM as a platform to achieve your personal agendas. This has nothing to do with "white knighting" and everything to do with putting our foot down and stopping CCP from making horribly unethical decisions related to microtransactions. Let's be clear here. CCP is a business, and they need to make money. However, the ethics of microtransactions are highly debatable, and something I'd prefer not to derail the thread with a debate on it. Yes, there is an agenda here though. The agenda is simple ; CCP needs to be given the message that prices this offensive are NOT okay. CCP trying to make money IS okay. CCP thinking they have a 'premium product' that is worth charging twice monthly what even their own counterpart to dust (Eve Online) is NOT okay. If CCP is not given this message, they're inevitably going to tread down the darker path of microtransactions, and see them go back on their promise of "No pay to win" in earnest. Then the 'free gamer' will have truly lost their voice. (Not to mention, their ability to compete) As for the other bit about "Y U NO PUSH FOR X INSTEAD" Let me put your mind at rest. Asking "So, when are getting that revamped SP system you promised us? New game modes? etc." Is something we do at an almost daily daily basis. Not only this, but it takes all of a few minutes to write up a post saying "No, I don't like these prices." Posting disapproval for one thing is not mutually exclusive with pushing for actual tangible progress and things to do in dust. Just saying.